Deterministic Takes Turf Test in G3 Manila

June 21, 2024

Deterministic scoring the Gotham (G3). (Susie Raisher)

Belmont at the Big A Notes

OZONE PARK, N.Y. – St. Elias Stables, Ken Langone, Steven Duncker and Vicarage Stable’s Grade 3 Gotham-winner Deterministic will make his turf debut in the nine-furlong Grade 3, $250,000 Manila on June 29 at Belmont at the Big A.

Trained by Christophe Clement, the Liam’s Map dark bay was on the Kentucky Derby trail earlier this year after a two-length score in the one-turn mile Gotham over sloppy and sealed footing on March 2 here. The impressive effort came from a nearly seven-month layoff following a sparkling debut maiden score in August at Saratoga Race Course where he overcame a troubled start to win by a half-length.

Deterministic finished off-the-board traveling nine furlongs over the Big A main track in his most recent two outings when eighth in the Grade 2 Wood Memorial presented by Resorts World Casino on April 6 and fifth last out in the Grade 3 Peter Pan on May 11.

He worked five-eighths in 1:01.22 on June 14 over the Spa’s Oklahoma training turf.

“He worked well. I’m happy with him,” Clement. “He won the Gotham on a wet track and he was disappointing in the Wood. I’ve wanted to try him on the turf ever since and now we’ve had the chance to train there. He moves like a dream on the grass. He’s a good horse and I have not given up on him.”

Deterministic followed up this morning with a five-eighths work in 1:03 flat over the Oklahoma dirt training track.

Bred in Kentucky by Hinkle Farms, Deterministic was a $625,000 purchase at the Keeneland September Yearling Sale and is out of the winning Speightstown mare Giulio’s Jewel. His third dam, the turf stakes-winning Amelia, produced graded stakes-winning turfers Rainha Da Bateria, Assateague and Kindergarden Kid.

West Point Thoroughbreds and Steven Bouchey’s Grade 1-winner Carson’s Run has drawn post 6 for Sunday’s $100,000 Tale of the Cat, a 1 1/16-mile turf test for sophomores, at Monmouth Park.

The Cupid chestnut enjoyed a prosperous 2-year-old campaign, winning his July debut and running second in the Grade 3 With Anticipation last summer at Saratoga before shipping to Woodbine Racetrack to the win the Grade 1 Summer in September. 

Carson’s Run was off-the-board in the Grade 1 Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf in November at Santa Anita. He made his seasonal debut in the Woodhaven last out on April 27 here and was steadied into the final turn and at the quarter-pole before bearing out sharply and carrying Elysian Meadows out several paths. Although he straightened up and crossed the wire fourth, Carson’s Run was disqualified and placed fifth for interference.

Carson’s Run has worked back consistently over the Belmont Park dirt training track, including a half-mile effort in 49.54 on June 17.

“He’s doing well since. He had a mental issue – he tried to bore out on the turn, but he seems to be OK in the mornings, so it’s time to run,” Clement said.

Clement also indicated that LSU Stables’ Far Bridge, winner of last year’s Grade 1 Belmont Derby Invitational and recently third in the Grade 1 Resorts World Casino Manhattan on Belmont Stakes Day at Saratoga Race Course, is likely to try the Spa’s 11-furlong Grade 2, $250,000 Bowling Green on July 28 or the Grade 2 United Nations at the same distance on July 20 at Monmouth Park.

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